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Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:44 pm
by A Todd
Here is a short but interesting article that I ran across on the internet. Thought I might already see a post in reference to this article so since there wasnt one thought I would post it. Of course as a fingerprint examiner, my first instinct is to run his fingerprints through the local AFIS system or through IAFIS for a possible ident and that probably was done....The article only mentions local officials are attemping to identify the man. But, it doesnt mention by what means they are using. Just thought it was an interesting article and to me it is incomplete but then I also realize that the news can only report with the information that they are given..... be it correctly reported or not.... they print it anyway..... Just curious on any other thoughts or comments.... If there are any....... :)

PROVO, Utah (Reuters) - A mystery man arrested on minor charges more than three weeks ago remains behind bars in Utah while law enforcement officials try to determine his true identity, which he refuses to reveal.

"This is really a strange case," said Lt. Dennis Harris with the Utah County Sheriff's Office. "He just doesn't want to be found."

The unidentified man, who has graying hair, a light beard and is believed to be in his 60's, was arrested on July 1 for trespassing in a parking garage.

He was booked into jail on three misdemeanor charges and has thwarted any chance of release, with or without bail, by refusing to identify himself.

"I've been trying to think from A to Z why he would want to stay here ... why he wouldn't give us any information," Harris said.

"He either has to be wanted by some other state or he could be on some other registry or database that has not shown up," he added.

Law enforcement officials say the man is "fairly well spoken and educated," but very guarded about his identity.

As a result of several short conversations with him, officers believe he may not be from Utah.

Officials gave the man a telephone calling card so he might contact friends or relatives, but he has not used it.

"He was very aware of what we were trying to do and he would not give us the slightest bit of information indicating where he was from or anything relating to his family situation," said Harris.

"We've had a lot of people call in but nothing has panned out. Nothing," he added.

Officials say in three weeks of jail the mystery man has shown a pleasant demeanor and has communicated that he is being treated well.

"He said the food has been great," Harris said.

"I realize that sometimes people want to go to jail because they are homeless, have nothing, they are destitute. I've seen that over the years. I just don't get the impression that's the reason. He just doesn't want to be discovered by somebody."

Now in his fourth week of incarceration, the man added another twist to the story recently by hinting he had business of some kind outside prison that he would need to attend to.

"He said there was a point at some time that he would need to get out of jail," Harris said. "That's the closest I can find of what he wants to do. And that makes no sense to me whatsoever."

(Editing by James B. Kelleher and Tim Gaynor)

Re: Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:25 am
by SConner
And what if he's never been fingerprinted before and thus not in "the system"? What if he just gave any old name and DOB, would that be sufficient to let him walk out?

Re: Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:52 pm
by A Todd
of course it wouldnt. and yes if he has never been fingerprinted before of course he wouldnt be in the system and that happens....... I hope they get him identified. just thought how funny if he "has nothing to hide" then why not identify who you are. now if he is in witness protection or something like that I can see why he dont want to id himself.... If he has done nothing wrong then why not tell law enforcement who you are? he gets out... gets his fine or what ever and then can move on. most folks who have done something bad are the ones who dont wanna give proper Identification. he may have perfectly good reason for not id ing himself. just have to see what Utah officials come up with. but then that may never be reported on...... I guess it's the suspense of the out come that makes it interesting....... :)

Re: Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:44 pm
by g.
I'll bet it's Santa...

Bringing joy and love to Cell Block A.

g.

Re: Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:44 am
by Gerald Clough
The simple way it's explained to knotheads in jail who refuse to identify is, "You can't book out, unless you can book in, and you won't book in, so you can't book out." Somewhere along about the second or third day, they reconsider. See, the corollary to the first explanation is that, "If you aren't booked in, you can't be classified, and if you can be classified, you can be assigned to a block, and if you can't assigned to a block, you live in the holding cell." (The one with no TV, no bunks, and the toilet in your living room.)

Seems like I read they identified the guy as a missing person from New Mexico, but the story I saw didn't reveal any reason for him not wanting to be identified.

Re: Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:42 am
by Steve Everist
Gerald Clough wrote:Seems like I read they identified the guy as a missing person from New Mexico, but the story I saw didn't reveal any reason for him not wanting to be identified.