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PCAST Rebuke

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:44 am
by josher89

Re: PCAST Rebuke

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:58 am
by Ernie Hamm
I am long removed from the forensic field these days, but read the report with interest. I agree with the decisions presented concerning the PCAST and metrology in forensics. I was particularly pleased with the following references in the report:

“Kumho Tire Court stressed that the assessment of reliability may appropriately focus on the personal knowledge, skill, or experience of the expert witness. “Kumho Tire, 526 U.S. at 150”: “United States Department of Justice Statement on the PCAST Report: Forensic Science in Criminal Courts: Ensuring Scientific Validity of Feature-Comparison Methods, January 13, 2021

This had been earlier labeled KSA’s (knowledge, skills and abilities) in an examiner’s preferred qualities.

“Moreover, the classification of a “source identification,” “source exclusion,” “inconclusive,” or other conclusion is ultimately an examiner’s decision.“ Ibid:

Along this line, I have long appreciated the following statement by Harold Tuthill as follows: “…comparison is the intuitive appraisal of the complex shapes and contours of the characteristics…” Harold Tuthill, “Individualization: Principles and Procedures in Criminalistics” (1994), with stress on “intuitive”!!

Examiners these days are treading in a virtual minefield with some of the said ‘mines’ having been placed by professional colleagues through their various studies, opinions and publication. DOJ sums it up in their closing remarks: “Verification by a second examiner, technical review, case controls, and other quality assurance measures used by accredited laboratories are critical components of risk management and mitigation.”

As I rarely post these days, I want to add to Texas Pat, if you read this and I am pretty sure you will, I like your ‘signature’ with one slight modification: stuck now in the 21st Century with no way (desire) to go back."

Re: PCAST Rebuke

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:08 am
by Texas Pat
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Re: PCAST Rebuke

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:38 am
by Texas Pat
But seriously, folks . . . .

I am interested in how this will impact several things:
1. Motions in limine
2. Daubert hearings
3. OSAC & ASB standards and BPRs

Rest assured, I will have a copy of this report in my court briefcase, either highlighted in yellow or with Post-It tabs marking the parts that will help refute PCAST or a challenge on the absence of statistics, probabilities, likelihood, measured error rates, etc., in latent prints.