Paul,
Well done. politically savvy yet direct in your approach. Very good balance, and tactful at that. Thank you for your work on this issue.
-Kasey
Dr. Henry Lee makes life interesting for the rest of us.
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As to the comment, Mr. Lee said in that TV show that, "Eighty per cent of identical twins have the same fingerprints"
Cummins and Midlo, Fingerprints, Palms and Soles, 1943, page 219, Cummins wrote about a reference to Gruneberg’s study (1928) compares homologous fingers in 390 pairs of monozygotic twins stating that pattern types agree in 80% of the digital couplets substantiated in MacArthur’s finding of 81%.
If, Mr. Lee referred to “twins having the same fingerprints” as we know this to mean – patterns, furthermore, if, Mr. Lee, referred to “not the same patterns” meaning the minutiae ridge arrangement is different. I can understand this. These are common expressions I have heard over and over, more so from lay people in news reports.
I am not defending the improper use of words fingerprints meaning patterns and the word patterns meaning minutiae ridge arrangements, however, it is not uncommon for a person that their first language is not English to say the wrong English word while describing something. This may be the situation for Mr. Lee.
Lets assume that it is true that Rennie did hear what Mr. Lee said (even though she did not record the TV show. Furthermore, Mr. Lee was referring to a fingerprint pattern of no value for individualization but may be used for exclusion based on patterns. Then I can understand when he said, “fingerprints might not help as well.” in a criminal case where the print is not of value for individualisation but otherwise be used for pattern exclusion. Faced with a pair of twins it would not be possible to discriminate the print impression from the pair.
The difference between monozygotic and dizygotic twins comes down to whether they have the same DNA. Monozygotic twins, otherwise known as identical twins, originated from the same fertilized ovum, and therefore the same sperm. Only about a quarter of twins are identical. The more common dizygotic twins began as two eggs separately fertilized by two sperm, and therefore they do not share the exact same DNA.
Cummins and Midlo, Fingerprints, Palms and Soles, 1943, page 219, Cummins wrote about a reference to Gruneberg’s study (1928) compares homologous fingers in 390 pairs of monozygotic twins stating that pattern types agree in 80% of the digital couplets substantiated in MacArthur’s finding of 81%.
If, Mr. Lee referred to “twins having the same fingerprints” as we know this to mean – patterns, furthermore, if, Mr. Lee, referred to “not the same patterns” meaning the minutiae ridge arrangement is different. I can understand this. These are common expressions I have heard over and over, more so from lay people in news reports.
I am not defending the improper use of words fingerprints meaning patterns and the word patterns meaning minutiae ridge arrangements, however, it is not uncommon for a person that their first language is not English to say the wrong English word while describing something. This may be the situation for Mr. Lee.
Lets assume that it is true that Rennie did hear what Mr. Lee said (even though she did not record the TV show. Furthermore, Mr. Lee was referring to a fingerprint pattern of no value for individualization but may be used for exclusion based on patterns. Then I can understand when he said, “fingerprints might not help as well.” in a criminal case where the print is not of value for individualisation but otherwise be used for pattern exclusion. Faced with a pair of twins it would not be possible to discriminate the print impression from the pair.
The difference between monozygotic and dizygotic twins comes down to whether they have the same DNA. Monozygotic twins, otherwise known as identical twins, originated from the same fertilized ovum, and therefore the same sperm. Only about a quarter of twins are identical. The more common dizygotic twins began as two eggs separately fertilized by two sperm, and therefore they do not share the exact same DNA.
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Re: Dr. Henry Lee makes life interesting for the rest of us.
and he is on the Editorial Board of the I.A.I.?