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AAAS Conference

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 am
by Boyd Baumgartner
There was a conference about a week ago put on by the AAAS in cooperation with NIST and the Innocence Project that you can view at the following link:

https://www.aaas.org/forensic-conference/2019

The topic: 10 Years post-NAS, what's transpired?

Re: AAAS Conference

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:42 am
by josher89
Do you have a TL;DR version?

Re: AAAS Conference

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:54 pm
by Boyd Baumgartner
Everyone thought the report would have had a greater impact than it did. The reason? Everyone is accusing everyone else of being afraid of science.

So, basically it's an appeal to the authority of science which, ironically is not scientific.


Just be more sciencey, guys! (A theme echoed in the latest JFI commentary about testimony)

Re: AAAS Conference

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:58 am
by josher89
And I thought wearing a lab coat to court would make it better!

Re: AAAS Conference

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:13 am
by Dr. Borracho
josher89 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:58 am And I thought wearing a lab coat to court would make it better!
Just don't wear a police uniform. Appears biasing. Very unscientific.

Re: AAAS Conference

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:36 am
by L.J.Steele
Boyd Baumgartner wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:54 pm Everyone thought the report would have had a greater impact than it did. The reason? Everyone is accusing everyone else of being afraid of science.
I recall at the time thinking it was a good first step, but changes would take decades. The DoJ Guide on Eyewitness ID came out in 1999 -- twenty years later many states and departments haven't adopted even the most basic recommendations and remain hostile to change.

The justice system is a vast, unwieldy beast, with strong incentives to keep things as they are and have (in the eyes of the main actors) always been. I think there is a point about a fundamental lack of understanding of science and scientific principles among some of the main actors, a lack of resources for training, and a strong anti-science/anti-authority mood in parts of the populace.

Re: AAAS Conference

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:38 am
by Alan C
Boyd Baumgartner wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:54 pm Everyone thought the report would have had a greater impact than it did. The reason? Everyone is accusing everyone else of being afraid of science.

So, basically it's an appeal to the authority of science which, ironically is not scientific.


Just be more sciencey, guys! (A theme echoed in the latest JFI commentary about testimony)
Just ask Dr. Science!

http://drscience.com/wordpress/